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Iris: Welcome to Real Life Astrology. In this monthly podcast, we share our unique insights applying astrology both to our personal lives and the society we live in. Thanks for joining us as we make astrology not just a scroll and like experience, but an integral part of your daily life.
Iris: This is a cosmic connection that's as real as it gets. I'm one of your hosts, Iris. My pronouns are they, them.
Andreya: My name is Andreya. My pronouns are she, they.
LaToya: My name is LaToya. My pronouns is her, she.
Iris: today we're gonna talk about the eighth house. And before we get into it, we're gonna briefly talk about what the house system is.
Andreya: So the way I describe houses is, I feel like this is not the technical way to put it, but here we go, is like, you are dividing up our solar system in different ways. And there's like so many different ways on how to do so. And depending on what house system you use, explains like what interpretation you're going to give, but at the end of the day, no matter what house system your astrologer is using, the root message is usually the same.
Andreya: What do you guys think?
LaToya: Yeah, I think it's pretty, pretty accurate. Um, yeah, because of the, depending on the house systems you use, I mean, you have a different perspective on things, but you pretty much hear the same thing. So I pretty much agree with what you're saying there. Um,
Andreya: what house system do you guys use?
LaToya: Um, I use whole sign house system. It just makes sense to me. And yeah, it's just super straightforward, clear cut. So like the first house is starts at zero degrees of the sign, and it's at 30 degrees and then moving forward on that.
Iris: Yeah. Um, I looked at Hellenistic astrology by Chris Brennan, um, to, to like contextualize some stuff for myself, and he says that whole sign house system is what was commonly used in the West.
Iris: And during the medieval or renaissance period, it lost its popularity, um, and it's also been used commonly in the Indian tradition since, like, the second century common era. Um, I feel like now we see a lot of people use Placidus, and there's also people who, like, use different house systems for different things.
Iris: Like I prim, I only use whole sign, but like, I'm not opposed to using other house systems. Like maybe one day I'll get into a different type of astrology that like uses a different house system and I'll learn it. But like, I feel like whole sign is great for me. Um, I know one thing people like about Placidus or like Campanus is that it has interceptions.
Iris: I couldn't tell you what an interception is because it's like not something that happens in Holstein. We don't have interceptions in Holstein. Um, but like people use it and like it. Um, there's a astrological chart called Horary, which you draw to ask specific questions. Like you can ask like, where's my lost wallet?
Iris: And like use the chart to find your wallet. Um, and that uses. regio montanus. Um, so yeah, there's like a lot of different house systems and I'm not advocating one is the best. I just use whole sign. And if you want to learn about house systems specifically, I recommend reading Dimitri George's books. on the houses, um, there's two big ones and she includes like traditional interpretations like medieval and renaissance and arabic and hellenistic and then she even goes into modern interpretations and gives years or times for when modern associate, modern association started gaining more acceptance.
Andreya: Wonderful.
Andreya: Thank you, Iris. You always have the best resources. Love that capricorn cellulum. I also use whole sign. Um, it's the last, it's the last, uh, my, my last teacher used whole sign. So I just adopted that system and went with it. I do want to tell the people that like, when you do use different astrology apps or systems, usually Plagiatus is the default.
Andreya: I don't know why, but I think that's just good to understand.
LaToya: Oh, I guess we should just dive into what are the different houses, I guess. Oh, and also what our houses so houses talk about, um, the different areas of our lives. So like if you wanted to talk about career then we looked at the 10th, or if you want to talk about money we look to the second and eighth house, but I think we can start breaking down what each house is just quickly, or just like briefly so people know, and then talk about the house that we want to talk about today and more depth.
LaToya: What do y'all think? .
Iris: Yeah. Um, I also wanna briefly talk about alphabet astrology after we, um, what the houses are. Mm-Hmm. . Um, but yeah, so the first house is, um, an angular house, which means that, uh, the ascendant is in the house. The Ascendant is the sign rising eastern on the horizon. Um, first house is like physical appearance, um, characteristics, um, like your outlook.
LaToya: Yeah, your physical body. Um, so anytime where you're like, what's going to happen with my health that that's one of the houses that astrologers will look at. Yeah. They will look at your first house because this literally has to do with you. Um, yeah, what do you, do you have anything else Andrea that you add to the first house or notice with the first house.
Andreya: Other people see you.
LaToya: Mm hmm.
LaToya: The second house has to do with money, self esteem your values, spiritual material values. Um, your talents that you could convert into money. Um, what else do I see with the second house? Um, also has to do with the voice. Like I guess I feel like communications more the third house but the second house to has to do with like your throat, going into like medical astrology.
LaToya: Um, what else do y'all attribute to the second house.
Andreya: of respect, morals, values.
Iris: When we say money, it's like your personal finances, your income, your possessions.
LaToya: Uh, the third house. It's the house of communication, um, short distance travel, um, the house of the priestess or rituals, um, the things that you do on a daily basis, daily thoughts, um, writing. That's another form of communication. Uh, siblings. That's where you'll find a place of siblings. Um, goddess. What else?
LaToya: What do you see? I'll put to the third house.
Andreya: Yeah, just like your local community. So the grocery store you go to, the bank that you go to. I like the, like going back in time and understanding, like the third house is kind of like a library where people gather and share information like, I went to this village and found this, and it's called a brick, and this is what you do.
Andreya: And like, the third house is also about like, how you absorb information, body language.
Iris: Um, yeah, I agree with all of that. Uh, the fourth house is the second angular house. Um, it is north on the sky. Um, the angle in the house is the I see you, which is the I'm Mom Coley. It means lower heavens. Um, this house represents our roots, where we come from, our family, our heritage, the stuff that we inherit.
Iris: Um, when I say things we inherit, I could mean like personality traits, um, I could also mean like psychic gifts. Death is also, um, associated with this house, which I feel like not a lot of people talk about, but it's very interesting. Um, when I look at mediumship in a chart, in a birth chart, I look at the fourth house and I also, yeah, I look at the fourth and the eighth.
Iris: Um, and yeah, it's also been associated with mother or your caretaker, like your primary caretaker when you're a kid. Um, your household comfort.
LaToya: Yeah, all hidden things. Um, I also associate it with land. Um,
LaToya: family, traditions, cultures, um, sense of belonging, um, your soul, you know, that's a very like broad vague term. Um,
LaToya: yeah, that's. Pretty much what what Iris said.
Andreya: That's cool. Yeah, sometimes I also look at, because the fourth house represents sanctuary, and so I feel like your sanctuary changes throughout your life, and sometimes like that can be your car, that can be your house, that can be your body, and so Uh, yeah, sometimes with the fourth house, I also look at what's going on with the body.
Andreya: I like how there's some overlapping happening, and like, we're gonna see that throughout because there's so many different, like, angles or perspectives we can go, um, see within the different houses, you know? Mm hmm, mm hmm.
Andreya: Yeah, the fifth house is, um, a fun house just because it represents everything that brings you joy without motive. Um, it's also about, like, inner child, um, children, how we play, where our creative flow is. Um, it's also about, like, any type of pleasures and this can be sex as well.
Andreya: Yeah, that's what I got.
LaToya: Yeah, inner child, sex for sport, sports. Speculation. Um, this house is called the house of good fortune. I'm in Hellenistic. Um, so yeah, children are very, it's a very fortunate thing to have and at least the ancients believe that. And so, um, now it's like. Oh, how much, how much does that cost?
LaToya: I was kidding.
Iris: No, that's true.
Andreya: Life as being a child, you know? Yeah,
LaToya: yeah. I was like, wait, I'm still a kid. Um, yeah. And then what else do I put for this house? Um, gambling. You know, if we got some gamblers, they'll might have like a stadium going on in the fifth house. Um,
LaToya: what else? Oh, spiritual teachings. Like, studying that. I think I've seen that before. Um, in the fifth house.
Iris: In relationship to children, not just like, not just like children that already exist that you've already had, but like also your fertility, like you can look here to see like, during certain periods, if like, it's easier or more challenging for you to conceive.
Iris: Um, yeah, it's good. Um, so the six house, um, right now Saturn is in my six house and has been since Saturn entered Pisces. And when Saturn entered Pisces again, 20, 20, 2023 March, March. It's been tough, but like, Your six houses associated with your health and vitality. Um, I feel like a lot of times I hear people say that like six houses mundane illness and like 12th house is chronic illness, but like I don't know if I believe in that distinction because like I've had a bunch of chronic health issues in the past time that Saturn's been in Pisces and like, It's been activating my sixth house.
Iris: Like, I don't have much going on in my twelfth house. The only thing in there is palace and I don't really work with palace a whole lot. Um, so yeah, anyway, this is an impromptu. Um, this is, this is also about like routine tasks and duties, chores, Um, like work, um, 10th house is like career and like 6th house is also related to work.
Iris: Um,
LaToya: But it's like the daily things that you do, like typing that email so that you can get that deal or whatever.
Iris: Yeah, it's also associated with servants, slavery, pets. in ritual.
LaToya: Yeah. Um, yeah. So yeah, the physical health, like that's what I've heard. Like with the six houses, physical health, and then the 12th is mental health.
LaToya: Um, and so, I mean, just like thinking about Saturn transit, that's what I learned whenever I had the six house Saturn transit where I was like, Oh, I do have anxiety. That's what I really learned. Like, Oh, it's, it's not, it's not just like a mental thing. It's also a physical thing. Um, And so yeah, that's where you'll find out a lot about your physical health there.
LaToya: And, um, and it's also like house workers are like people that are like your helpers. So if you have employees, if you're, you have your own business, employees will be there. Um, or just like your house helpers, like people like cleaners, people that, you know, Help keep your place tidy will be there. Um, this is also in Hellenistic, the place of bad fortune, because, you know, it's not, it doesn't have a lot of, um, light going into this house, because it's a hidden house in comparison to the first house.
LaToya: And so, you know, these are the kind of things that you overlook, and then it becomes a bigger problem. Um, over time and, you know, if you have a transit going on to the sixth house, then that's where it's more activated and you'll see what's going on there. Um, it's also a place of enemies. Um, I've, I've read, I've heard that, I've read that before.
LaToya: So, um, where you're actively having to, I guess like discover your enemies because the seventh really is like an open enemy where you have the legal battles going on, but like, um, yeah, where you're dealing with enemies.
Iris: I've heard of the 12th house. As the house of hidden enemies?
LaToya: No, I mean like you're dealing with enemies, it's the sixth house.
LaToya: So yeah, hidden enemies is the 12th. Sorry, am I wording? Probably.
Iris: Oh, okay. That makes sense. Yeah.
Andreya: That's cool. Yeah, I mean, pretty much repeat what you guys said. I described the six houses like how you set yourself up for success, how you fill your cup before you present yourself to the world. But yeah,
LaToya: That's good.
LaToya: Yeah, on a daily basis. Yeah, because they're once you enter the seventh house, that's another angular house and you're, you're basically entering the arena of dealing with other people. Um, so the seventh house talks about partnerships relationships, this is the place of your spouse. Um, if you have one, um, your general attitude, um, with relationships or dealing with people on to one to one basis.
LaToya: So if you're a consultant, and you're like. Am I going to get clients? You know, we'll look to your seventh house to see if like, if any activity is going on there. Um, legal battles as well. Um,
LaToya: and it could be like, you know, your spouse turns into your enemies because this is also like an enemy house as well. Open enemies. Um, yeah, what else do y'all usually put the seventh house?
Andreya: Yeah, this is one to one energy exchange. What are you giving? What are you receiving when it comes to one to one?
Iris: I don't know if you already said this Latoya, but it's also like contracts and things. Yeah. And I think that's important because that like goes into like the people you do business with and also like the people you marry if you're someone who makes a choice to marry someone.
Iris: Um, People often talk about this house as like romantic or business. I also feel like platonic friends can go in this category because I think friendship has changed over time. Um, and like, I feel like the more people who choose to like not have children due to whatever reason and like the more modern we've gotten throughout time, it's like people put a lot of investment in their friendships and like friendships become very.
Iris: Like important relationships, like, like people's friends as extensions of their family. Um, so at least I do. I don't know how other people do, but I do. So like I put like not all of my friendships in that seventh house. but like my really serious ones, like the people that like I would take a knife for, and like the people I know who would like have my back through like the worst of shit, I put in the seventh house, and also the angle in that house is the descendant, it's west, um, on the horizon, it's the sign setting on the horizon, and then we can skip eighth house, because we'll go into it in a couple, um, Ninth house is like, yeah.
Iris: So third house is like. Short term travel and like writing and ideas and all of this stuff and like learning and it's interesting because like Ninth House kind of carries that too. Like Ninth House is like long distance travel, foreign affairs, culture. Um, it's also about learning, um, more so like higher education, um, your belief systems.
Iris: Astrology goes into this house.
LaToya: Broadcasting, like what you know, sharing what you know, um, yeah, like the third house, you find, you know, this cool little idea and you learn the fundamentals about it. And then the ninth house you build upon it, you, you study it deeper and learn more about it in a more deeper kind of experiential kind of way.
LaToya: Um, it's also the place of, um, you know, priesthood. And so like, yeah, it's like you're on the track of like studying a god or whatever, um, and really understanding the doctrines here. Um, what else do I put in the ninth house?
Andreya: Yeah, I agree. The ninth house is just like different experiences that are outside of your comfort zone that change your perspective on things.
LaToya: Um, moving on to the 10th house. So the 10th house is a very public house. It's another angular house. Um, so you're dealing with public life, what people know you for because of the things that you've done. Um, so your reputation, your career, um, dealing with authority figures. Um, your legacy, um, achievements, actions in the world, like what you do, yeah, in the world.
Iris: Um, this is like the reaction from all the work that you've done behind the scenes, which is the fourth house and how you took care of yourself is now able to come out front and center for people and they see you for who you are.
Iris: Um, yeah, this is the angle in this house is the MC, which is the medium Coley and it's the highest heavens.
Iris: It's the highest point, um, any planet can reach in the horizon. Um, you know, your first house is your physical appearance and like how people see you, but the 10th house is also how people see you because it has to do with your reputation. So like planets in this house can really like. flavor, the kind of reputation that people like associate you with.
Iris: So like, even though I feel like I'm very like Capricorn and I have this Libra rising, um, like my Chiron and my South Node are in Cancer in my 10th house. So, like, I feel like a lot of times the impression people get of me is, like, I'm really, like, kind, and, like, I like to take care of people, and I don't feel like people always make that association with, like, someone who has a lot of Capricorn placements, even though Capricorn and Cancer are, um, polar signs.
Iris: So, yeah. Um.
Andreya: Yeah, that was great. Eleventh house. Eleventh house. I always say like astrology believes that in order for your hopes and dreams to come true you need people to help you and like that's 11th house. Like these are your friends, this is your community, this is your socialization, this is your aspirations, hopes, and dreams.
LaToya: Yeah,
LaToya: your networks. Um, this is, you know, progressive ideas. So like, this is where you'll go to like, find like minded people that are actually doing stuff in the world and you want to join them. Um, so causes, you know, different causes that you're about. And also this is a place of, uh, higher beings as well.
LaToya: So like your angels, you know, your spirit guides, um, you find them here. If you're that type to see those kinds of, you know, connections there.
Iris: If the fourth house is like
Iris: where you belong physically or like in relationship to land, the 11th house is like where you belong in relationship to other people. But yeah, the, the 12th house, the last house, um, one of or the most challenging house. In my opinion, um, a lot of the themes of this house are like, not the fun ones.
Iris: So the 12th house often has to do with like, privacy, solitude, um, being in retreat. Like being away from, um, this house is right next to the first, so it doesn't see the first house. Interestingly, too, if you want to look at, um, conditions of your life before you were born, you can look at the 12th house. Um, this house also is associated with, like, addictions, mental illness, insanity, death, misfortune, um, so it's like heavy shit, but it's also Yeah, it's also associated with, like, luck and miracles and healing, um, so, yeah.
LaToya: Yeah, spiritual practices here,
LaToya: um, rest, reflection, um, on, yeah, what you've done up to this point in life, um, isolation, like you mentioned, um, , lands, like foreign lands, like overseas, kind of dealing with that too, um, And hidden enemies. So this could be actual people, or this can be, you know, you're not the enemy of yourself, you know, you being your own enemy, worst enemy.
LaToya: Yeah, you're all good. Yeah.
Andreya: Yeah, the
Andreya: 12 house is a weird one, cause like, it's karma, it's spiritual blocks, it's secrets, it's skeletons. But like, within those spiritual blocks, you find like, spiritual releases. Like, different levels of, like, how you can advance in this human form, but in order to advance in this human form, you have to, like, go through these weird dimensions, this, like, weird reincarnation, meeting yourself, where you were at and where you are now.
LaToya: Yeah, yeah, because like
LaToya: this is the place of forgotten traumas like you're, you're, it's been many lives ago. And so you would have to do those past life regressions and like you're saying to understand who you are and how you got to this point.
Iris: So like alphabet astrology
Iris: is basically the idea that like the first house equals Aries equals Mars to some extent.
Iris: And this is how we got a lot of modern associations, um, to the houses. Um, like for instance, um, the eighth house wasn't traditionally associated with sex. Um, it didn't get that signification until 1910 From a modern astrologer named Alan Leo and I learned that from Demetra George's book on houses so I think it's an interesting question to pose because like when they were determining the house system and like traditional astrology they had their own reasoning.
Iris: It wasn't based off of the sign. It was like its own thing. Um, so like, I don't think, I use modern associations. I'm not saying like, don't use modern associations or like, they're not like, uh, or anything like that. But I think it's interesting to like trace how it changed historically. And I also still, I still don't think that like everything has to do with, of Aries equals the first house, but there are similarities, which is why it became popular.
Iris: And I also think it became popular with publishers. publishing astrology books because instead of going through the 12 signs, the 12 houses, and all of the 10 planets, they could condense the signs and the houses into one and say first house equals Aries. Um, so I also think there's like a capitalist spin on why we do.
Iris: Um, but yeah, what do you all think?
LaToya: Yeah, definitely. Um, Like Alan's intention
LaToya: was that of who's the one I'm remembering because I'm taking the course on holonistic astrology right now. And from what I've gathered is that Alan Leo made it. So that it's simpler to understand astrology instead of like having to go back and what the ancients were doing and why it was the first house, you know, um, the house of the self and et cetera, et cetera.
LaToya: And so it made it so that it was easier to just understand. Um, but that also makes sense of like, you save on the paper and literally on paper to just condense it all. And, um, yeah, so that makes, that makes a lot of sense to me. Um, but yeah, they're not. not necessarily the same thing.
Andreya: Yeah, I think alphabet
Andreya: astrology is, is cool for when you're beginning.
Andreya: I think it's a good tool to utilize when you're getting into astrology. Um, but again, like it's just something to be really mindful of because since astrology has gone so popular, there are like different ways people have condensed this very vast, It takes lifetimes to learn a tool. And so just don't, don't get stuck in alphabet astrology because there's so much more.
Andreya: But again, like it's a great first step.
Iris: Yeah. And the last thing I'll say about this, and then we can go into the eighth house finally is um, you know, like astrology is like a living,
Iris: uh, breathing tradition. Like, it doesn't stop at some point in history. Like, we are always giving back into it and like adapting it and changing it.
Iris: And like, I feel like knowledge as a whole is very mutable. And I think it's important to preserve traditions and ideas, but I also think it's like equally important to like adapt and accept that like nothing Nothing stays the same. So that's why I work with like the traditional and modern interpretations.
Iris: And, you know, do whatever makes sense for you in the astrology you practice. Yeah.
Iris: So, eighth house, shit. What is the eighth house?
LaToya: Um, . It's awful. . It's so annoying.
LaToya: Yeah. Yeah. So the eighth house, whew. It's all the things that you don't wanna look at. That you put in the closet and you say, I'll deal with it later. It's overwhelming. And I got to go pay some bills, but I can't deal with that right now. So yeah, eighth house death. grief, also mental illness, um, other people's money, other people's resources, other people's attitude about sex, your attitude about sex and energy, uh, energetic exchange.
LaToya: We have a whole list here. Also therapy really being changed significantly by your experiences. Um, Banks, loans, other people's money again, you know, um,
LaToya: mysticism, a cult, um, what else do we want to list it all out? We have it all right here, but
Andreya: it's also like about
Andreya: trust, like where you put trust, how you trust yourself. It's about transformation. It's about rebirth. It's about like, in depth psychological, like, experiences. It's about, like, letting go of the old and embracing the new.
Andreya: It's about owning your sexuality. It's, like, the mysteries of life and how you can, like, go through these gates of hell and come out as like a more profound intentional person. It's everything you cannot control in a nutshell.
Iris: So the eighth house also has to do with money, like the second house, Um, but it's like other people's money. Um, like Latoya said earlier, like the seventh house is when we kind of like leave this realm of ourselves and like enter in the outside world. Um, so like eighth house is other people's money. Um, it's money that like you can get through inheritance or taxes or institutions.
Iris: It's credit cards, royalties, commissions, um, loans, mortgages, venture capital, um, joint funds. It's money you get from clients if you have a job or like you work with clients. Um,
Andreya: mm-Hmm, ,
Andreya: it's about power and power dynamics.
LaToya: You can also
LaToya: put trauma there too. Yeah. Um, I also put ancestry in here as well because I've had quite a few transits go through here and not kept bringing it up. The ancestry. That was a really big one. Um, and like what you inherited, because not only do you inherit money, you know, or physical things, but you inherit, you know, mentalities and, um, you know, your body as well, your, um, DNA,
LaToya: just like your coping mechanisms and all that stuff. Although that would be more of the first house coping mechanism, but I feel like what you've inherited from your family is coping mechanisms in the eighth house too. Um,
LaToya: I usually put addictions here in the eighth house. Yeah. Um, because like how do you cope with your, with your grief, you know, um, sometimes you turn, you grab things and try to numb it out and try to hide it. But usually it's like it on the eighth house on earth things as well. It brings it back up. Um, cause the gets too full sometimes.
Andreya: . Yeah,
Andreya: because if there's, if, I'm reading a chart and there's a lot of planets in the eighth house, like, I know that you got some weird quirks to you, like, you're, you're doing some weird stuff on how you're spending your time, like, you're on YouTube watching plane crashes, like, different plane crashes, like, things like that.
Andreya: You're going to, like, haunted houses, like, for fun, you know? Yeah. Uh, huh. You're finding bones and cleaning them. Yeah! Relatable, but yeah.
LaToya: Yeah, I was like, oh my gosh, I wonder about that. But yeah, you got a lot of secrets. A lot of secrets.
LaToya: Taboo. Oh yeah, the taboos is in here too. Um, Ghost. Yeah, the 8th house is an interesting house.
LaToya: It, it, it pulls a lot out of you. Um, it requires all of you. Um, so that you can, Potentially become a better person if you want to not you can be if you misuse your power to with the house here. Um, but yeah, what else what else should we talk about with the house. Let's see.
Andreya: I want to. Like, when your clients are going through 8th house shit, like, what's your go to advice for them?
LaToya: Um, it can't last forever, the, um, you know, anything that's constant is change, change is a constant thing, so we, you know, just kind of have to ride it out, let, surrender to it, you know, surrender to what is being asked of you in this moment, um, and,
LaToya: yeah, that's kind of like. What I have right now.
LaToya: Face it. You know, face, face the shit. Learn how to compost.
LaToya: Don't sit in it. Don't sit in the shit. It stinks.
Iris: Um, the way
Iris: you, like, if you can, the best way to take a fall is to relax as much as possible. Um, so like you do less damage
Iris: to your physical body. So basically like, just try to relax as much as you can, instead of. Tensing up and like potentially hurting yourself more, um, which is like easier to say than it is to do.
LaToya: Oh yeah, because the eighth
LaToya: house is the place of, um, anxiety, um, your fears and your anxiety. Like I have a story, um, which I feel like, like is a great. example of like Saturn in the 8th house in Pisces. So I have a friend, um, who, I think it's okay because I've told her, I was like, I'm going to borrow your story.
LaToya: So I think it's okay. She's like, okay. Um, so she was like swimming in the river and she was like, Oh, it's so nice. You know, it's a beautiful day and notice that someone off in the distance had lost their shoe because they were on a boat. And so she was like, Oh, let me go help them. I'm going to go save their, their shoe because that, you know, sucks that they lost it.
LaToya: And so she was, she left her kids at the shore. She starts swimming into the river and she's like, I'm going to go get this shoe. And, and, uh, started realizing like, okay, she's like losing energy. And like the, the river had its own like current going on. And so it was like pulling her in some ways. And so she was like, okay, I'm losing energy.
LaToya: Like I can't keep going and like managed to get the shoe, but like now she's feeling weaker. So she was freaking out. She was like, Oh my God, like I'm literally going to die here. Like I'm going to drown because I can't pull myself up. The water is pulling me down. Um, It sucks because I left my kids there now that they don't have a mom, you know, I had this whole story building up in her head.
LaToya: And then something in her told her to relax and to stand up. And so she was like, what? And then she did and realized the water was only like, uh, knee high or hip high. So it was kind of like, Oh yeah, I just need to relax and, um, surrender to this, but realize that I can stand up in this moment. And sometimes the eighth house could be like that, you know, you kind of like build up this whole story that builds upon your fears and really.
LaToya: Yeah. You just have to like own your ground or surrender to the moment and realize that you have more power than you're giving to yourself and you could stand up. But I feel like that's like the best like Saturn and Pisces eighth house kind of story. Um, that's like one of my, I guess like things to kind of like give to my clients to remember that you have power.
Andreya: That's amazing. That's literally my
Andreya: advice to my clients when they're going through eighth house shit. It's just like, own it. And 8th house is definitely like accountability, because before a rebirth, you have to understand, like, what you're letting die, you know? And so, like, yeah, if you're going through 8th house shit, like, own it.
Andreya: Own your emotions. Own your sexuality. Own your beliefs. And just, like, walk through that fiery path. Um, yeah, that's, that's a great story.
Iris: Um, yeah, and the eighth house is one of the houses that doesn't aspect the first house. So it's going to be like planets in that house are going to have a harder time expressing themselves and like embodying
Iris: the things that those planets like to achieve.
Iris: So I would say like remediation for the planets in that house. Or for the ruler of that house, like, you know, if that, if your eighth house is, um, In Leo, the sun rules that house. So like remediation for the sun, um, looking at what aspects the sun is making to other things in your chart. Um, but you know, I feel like only really like very recently have we gotten more comfortable with talking about like hidden topics on a societal level.
Iris: And I think that's great. Um, and I feel like the Pluto and Scorpio generation has really like carried that baton. Um, but it, there's still a lot of resistance and this idea, like, This normative idea that we have to keep that shit hidden, you know, like, like when your parents were like, we don't talk about that in front of guests, you know, like we're going to keep this under the rug.
Iris: So like working with your eighth house is like, really like a radical thing to do because you're deciding to. Like, look at those things that are taboo or hidden, and say, no, like, I'm gonna take ownership of these things, and like, look at my relationship to them, and like, the beliefs that I built around these things that are hidden, and I also think that's why sex started being associated with the 8th house, because like, because we live in this like, weird, puritanical, Christian, fuckin Protestant society, like, you know, but we're also hyper sexualized at the same time.
Iris: So like we have all of this like hyper sexuality and then we also have like anything that has to do with actually give, like, it's okay to be a sexual object, basically, but to have sexual agency is a no no. So it's a weird, it's like a weird fucking, like, dichotomy, and I think that's why 8th House became associated with sex, because, like, so much of our sexual desires are related to things that are taboo, you know, like getting off on things that you have to from other people or shit that's You know, not seen as socially acceptable.
Andreya: Yeah, and when I think
Andreya: about the 8th house, I think about, like, the three most common fears in life. Number one is death. Number two is public speaking. Number three is heights. And so, I just always think of that when I'm, like, describing the 8th house. And, like, personally, I have The Sun, Mars, and Saturn in Pisces in the 8th house.
Andreya: And, you know, like, sex, death, and the occult are my three favorite things to talk about. Like, all day long, you know? And I just think, um, Embodying the eighth house is embodying those fears and looking them in the eyes and knowing that it's, it's an illusion. And again, like Iris was saying, like, it's all about, like, owning it and just like walking the talk and no longer talking in the eighth house is going to make you do that.
Andreya: It's gonna make you Walk your talk.
LaToya: Staying the same is not a thing.
Iris: Yeah. Yeah. I know maybe you can speak to this more, Dre, because you have so much of that in your eighth house, so much energy in your eighth house. But I know for, for me, like, You know, I have a fourth house stillium. I have a bunch of activity in my fourth house.
Iris: So like, I feel like my fourth house is going to be a theme for me for the rest of my life. And like, different transits are going to trigger it in different ways. And I'm going to get to know it, know its facets in different ways, you know? So like, how do you feel about having so much energy in your eighth house?
Iris: And like, what things, what other stuff can you, like, offer to people who are going through? Who have like either challenging natal placements in the eighth house or going through challenging eighth house transits.
Andreya: Yeah, so I think that since these planets are in Pisces, I do have, like, a somewhat optimism about the trauma that the 8th
Andreya: house has given me.
Andreya: And so I think, like, the 8th house trauma really is just, like, all the sudden tragic deaths I've had, I've experienced throughout my life when it comes to family or friends. You know, like I've had two people die in front of me, one in my arms being my dad, you know what I'm saying? That's 8th house shit.
Andreya: And I think, like, death being such, uh, death and grief being such a huge motivator for me in my life, being such an identifier for me, like, death is the reason why I am so bold and so, like, I don't give a fuck, I'm gonna do it type of energy, so, like, in depth. That is somewhat intimidating when it comes to this world.
Andreya: Um, I see death as like, I'm so grateful for it. It's my biggest teacher. It's the reason why I have so many amazing experiences under my belt. And so, I guess like where I'm going with this is just understanding like that you can find glimmers of life in the most darkest places. Like, yes, these horrible things happened.
Andreya: Yes, you are a victim to these horrible things. But at the same time, like, what are you going to do with this energy? How are you going to transform it, transmute it, reframe it? Like, that's your power. Like, your reaction on how to, like, transmute this energy to like get what you want or to be where you want to be like that's That's your gift from the eighth house.
Andreya: Does that make sense?
LaToya: Yeah, it's incredible
Iris: Yeah, I'm sorry that you lost so many people and like you're a young person, and you lost those people when you were younger than you are now. And like, I feel very similarly to you. Like, I lost my parents and my sister when I was a kid, and I've lost more family members, too, and, like, I wouldn't be the person I am now without my relationship to death, um, like, I really do have a very radically different perspective on life.
Iris: than other people and I might not be like Jumping off of like fucking mountains and like hang gliding and shit, right? I just like in my personal life. I'm like i'm gonna say how I feel and i'm gonna like live, you know, as authentically as I can. And like, people can either fuck with that or not, that's their choice.
Iris: But like, I'm not going to dim myself down to make other people more comfortable with me. And like, if I'm racialized as aggressive, whatever, if people think of me as like, too loud or outspoken, whatever, you know, if people think I'm like, You know, I identify as an agender person. I'm not male or female.
Iris: Like if people think I'm a woman using they, them pronouns, like they can go fuck themselves. Like I'm just living my life. Um, I just want to like have peace and like joy and like be with my loved ones. And I have my Mars in my eighth house. For us and my moon is in an out of sign conjunction to that Mars.
Iris: It's like three degrees. Um, and in different houses systems, like if I use Campanus, my moon would be in the eighth house, which is interesting. Cause like I'm bipolar, like my, I've been diagnosed for 13 years and I might have had it since I was a teenager. I just wasn't. Diagnosed then. Um, but like my moon is also in a very me mercurial sign.
Iris: Um, my moon is in Gemini and it's like, Geminis aren't thought of as like really emotive, 'cause it's an air sign, but like, Geminis are in constant fluctuation. So to have that, you know, moon and Gemini, it's like constant fluctuation. And like, I resonate a lot with like this moon and eighth house, because like, I am a very extremely emotional person.
Iris: I have extreme up and downs. Like I'm really passionate. Um, but I mostly use whole sign. So like in whole sign, my moon is in the ninth house. Um, which I also relate to. Um, like even just like my Mars in the eighth house, like things I've learned about myself. I'm really good in emergency situations. Like I've worked in like high stress mental health and social services environments where people were like overdosing on a regular basis or like intoxicated and like having a lot of like, you know, aggressive manifestations of being intoxicated.
Iris: Um, I've been in emergent situations in my household where like people were like being violent and shit. And like, I just, like, part of it is trauma. I, I learned how to respond in emergency situations, but like, I'm really fucking calm. And I'm a skilled person in an emergency. Um, I also have, I talked about this before on the podcast, I also have a lot of anger issues.
Iris: You know, my Mars is in the eighth house, a lot of internalized anger, um, keeping it to myself and then keeping it to myself so much that it ends up, you know, overflowing from the cup and I'm externalizing my anger on others. Um, you know, I manage it well, but that's. That's something that, um, you know, I've had challenges with.
Iris: And for me, like Venus rules my eighth house of Taurus and like Venus is aspecting my Mars and I have a night chart. So like there is some mitigation there, like Mars is fury. Like, but, uh, yeah, that was beautiful.
LaToya: Yeah, thanks for sharing that because inside of what the eighth house could look like, I, I know like for me, I'm starting to get to know my eighth house.
LaToya: I've always been interested in the occult magic and all this and I have Saturn, um, in the eighth house as well as a lot of other like asteroids, um, I guess Pallas, uh, we have, I have Lilith there, . Um, in Pisces in the eighth. And, uh, I know for me, because I'm having my SAT and return money is a really big, big topic right now and how I manage my money and, and how, like my partner, I, because this is, Not just my money, it's other people's money as well and how to utilize that better to get what I want.
LaToya: And so right now it's just kind of like going through the understanding other people's motives with their money and like what they're doing with their money and why, and how they're trying to take my money and use it for their, you know, their goals. And, and me having that like Saturn pushback, it's like the experience that I'm having and figuring out like, well, who do I want to, to Combined forces with so that I can get what I want to and, um, having a really hard time learning it.
LaToya: But I feel like at the end of this transit, I will, I will get a better grasp of this Saturn 8th house thing. Um, but yeah, like dealing with, you know, a lot of extreme situations at home. That's, that was a norm to me. Um, in my own relationships is a norm to me. Um, And having to, uh, remain calm. I think that that was, I think like some, sometimes I freaked out, you know, sometimes it was just like, I know how to remain calm in them, but like, uh, yeah, it's that eighth house.
LaToya: It's, it's a really difficult, I mean, like the past couple of years, just like breaking down and crying because of how intense it is, but. Jupiter as the ruler of my, uh, eighth house sitting in the third. And so I have that mitigation going on and I have a day chart. So it's, um, It's helping, um, because I've, uh, when I had my car for 10 years, it, um, it was doing well.
LaToya: And then started to, of course, like old cars do break down. And, um, we ended up getting gifted another car on the same day that my 10 year old car died. So that was really interesting. And I felt like that was like the Jupiter Saturn eighth house combo working there. And so it was just kind of like, wow, if I didn't, we weren't gifted this car on that day, um, we would be out of luck, you know, we would not have a car and it would have been hard to get out of the town that we were in.
LaToya: And for like a year and, um, so dealing with, you know, gifts, I think from other people that passed, you know, that, that, that shows up in the eighth house, especially if you have like a beneficial plan at ruling it or sitting in that eighth house as well. You'll have that experience, but yeah, there's. Faith House is a really interesting house and through that all it changes you, you know, what you experience there.
LaToya: It changes you as a person and your perspective on life and, and dealing with other people and, and what their, you know, their wishes and their dreams and our motives, um, going on there too. It's, it's, yeah, it really changes a person. It makes you hopefully become better as better as a person too.
Andreya: Right. So far.
Andreya: Unfortunately, Sometimes it takes a crisis for you to change your perspective, for you to reframe a story you keep telling yourself. So like, with going back to
Andreya: death, like, people are scared of death because it's the unknown, but really it's the all knowing. And then just like, right now with Saturn, with my Saturn return in the eighth house, like, the story I keep telling myself is like, Damn, I've never worked so hard in my life for such little reward, but is the reframe really like, dude, this is long term happiness.
Andreya: Like, we're working on the long term right now. That's, that's why you feel that way. Because you're working on your discipline, and you're thinking long term. Um, and so, yeah, it just, it just takes a crisis, and I love the full circle because I feel like each one of our stories, like, we're just owning our shit, and being loud about it.
Andreya: And that's something that I've heard all my life, is like, um, Dre, Too Deep, Too Deep Dre, because like, Just take it to like another level in conversation when it comes to like, um, uncovering the psychological mysteries, right? Eighth house. And so I think like, again, just, just owning, um, who we are and every aspect of it, even if that aspect is in the works of reframing, transmuting, transforming, uh, that's, that's the walk of the talk, baby.
Iris: And
Iris: because you guys are in your Saturn returns, um, I don't know much about decans and critical degrees. I've
Iris: just started, like, kind of looking into that a little bit, but my partner is super into the decans right now. And, um,
Iris: I would look at the decans of your Saturn.
Iris: Austin Coppock has that book, um, 36
Iris: Faces, but like, it's super expensive, but I, please no one tell Austin Coppock, I do have a PDF of it.
LaToya: Watch, he's like listening to this podcast, like, no, I'll just get it.
LaToya: So funny.
Iris: I mean, he said like, the book is really expensive, I plan on reprinting it, like he's gonna republish it or whatever. But, yeah, I can send it to you.
LaToya: Cause like, what, what, what does that, what information does that give based off of like knowing your deck, your Saturn's deck and.
Iris: So the way Andrew talks about it is like, everyone's like, oh yeah, my son is in Capricorn and Andrew's like, no bitch, you're like a, you're a second Deccan Capricorn. Um, so it just gives you like more information to like contextualize, like, because all of the, the three Deccans are different and have different like qualities and like things that they're striving for or like themes.
Iris: So, yeah, just like bringing more nuance to, to whatever sign it's in.
LaToya: Okay, yeah, I'm gonna have to look into that again, because I guess that will give you insight on like how to navigate it more, maybe?
Iris: I don't know, I think it might be interesting. Um, I also wanted to say that like, I lost out to an inheritance when I was young.
Iris: No. Like, an eighth house thing, um, and like Mars is my malefic, and even though it's like mitigated, it's still malefic, and like I'm not really sure what, um, like what year it happened in, um, but like my, one of my uncles died when I was young, and my brother who was older than me at the time, like inherited money and like, didn't share any of it with me, which is like really fucked up.
Iris: Cause like, a, he's my older brother. Like you should take care of your younger siblings. And like, you know, like our parents died and like, despite our people being exploited for centuries, like we don't have any generational wealth or like land. So like, it would have been nice had he shared whatever he got.
Iris: Um, but like, like many things in my family dynamic did in that way. Um, so I, I mean, it wasn't fun, but it's an interesting eighth house topic. And then during this time of like Uranus and Jupiter in my eighth house, I've decided that I'm going to apply for a master's program in social work. I've worked in, um, like social services and mental health for six years.
Iris: Um, and, you know, I've had an interest in psychology since I was a kid. So it's interesting that during this transit is like when I finally decided like, Oh, I'm just going to do the thing and see what happens. And also, um, I have really consciously started cultivating like my psychic mediumship since Uranus has been in Taurus since March 2019.
Iris: Um, just like doing things for myself to strengthen it and like be attuned to it. And then also my natal Uranus is in the fourth house which is related to death and things we inherit from family. And I definitely come from like a family of like psychics. and like magic practitioners and mediums and shit like that.
Iris: So it's interesting. Um, yeah. Let's see that come up. Yeah, that is neat.
Andreya: Crazy. So everything you said when you described the eighth house within your life is so relatable, Iris. I mean, I was also in mental health for so long and I was so good at it. But when you don't have a full cup, like it's so hard to show up and also.
Andreya: Like, when my dad died, my uncle wrote me out of the, my grandparents will and like my whole family, because we were no longer related. And I tried so hard to fight it. But since, like, Everything was so crazy. I couldn't do anything without, like, my mother's consent, and she was in the depths of grief, and so there was, like, nothing we could do.
Andreya: It was fucking crazy. Um, but yeah, uh, yeah, super relatable.
LaToya: Yeah, like for me, um, when my grandfather passed, he didn't have a will. And so all that he's owned, like his house and everything, but he still had his wife and whatnot. She like got everything. And so like, she lost the car that he almost finished paying off.
LaToya: Who knows what happened to the house? Like, but it was just crazy. Cause it was just kind of like, well, he, I, I know I've, you know, realized like, wow, if you don't have anything written, like that shit can just be taken. And yeah, that's, that's eighth house stuff right there for you too.
Andreya: Like,
Andreya: I've learned so many different times that like, never to depend on inheritance, like, it's so messy.
LaToya: Yeah, yeah. And I feel like even with like, uh, having that in there, it's like, he blocks that, you know? Like, it's just like, no, how
LaToya: about you just make your own? That's, at least that's my experience right now.
Iris: Or it could be, or it could be delayed. Like, you might not receive an inheritance till you're in a much later phase of your life.
LaToya: Mm. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Mm-Hmm.
LaToya: Hmm. Else? . Um, do we wanna talk about the transit coming up in June, uh, later this month?
Andreya: Yeah, I just want to say even though we have a lot of shit, shit, we have a lot of shit talking about the eighth house, I am very grateful for it.
Andreya: And it's like, I really should. Yeah, I really do enjoy the gifts it's given me, and I, like, I really want to embrace the power that at the end result gives us all, and, um, yeah, I wish that for everyone.
LaToya: I'm excited to understand that towards the end of this trip, but right now I just feel like I'm in the soup.
LaToya: I'm like, what in the world? What is this?
LaToya: Like even like being an astrologer, I knew it was going to be difficult and I'm like, okay, I'm going to like outsmart the gods. Jokes on you, you still got to go through your fate.
Andreya: I struggle a lot with in my practice, you know, I see it coming. I'm prepared for it. I'm gonna avoid it. Oh my god, slap me in my face.
Andreya: How does that work?
Iris: There's nothing
Iris: wrong with the dark. There's nothing wrong with like the dark aspects of our mind. Or our spirit, like, I'm not a love and light girly. Like, I think that our dark is an essential component to ourselves. And I don't think historically it's always been this way, but like, language around like, white and black magic or light and dark is like, highly racialized.
Iris: And like, what do we associate with darker, complected black people is like, not good things. Um, so I think that's an important thing to remember when we use language like light and dark, um, or, uh, yeah, light and dark or like white and black. I don't think that's everyone's intention, but like, it's just something to think about.
Iris: And I think that, you know, dark is like beautiful in an essential part of who we are in our spirit. And it's not lessening it or like running it or pushing it away. It's about like acceptance and like treating it tenderly and lovingly. Um, because like the places that are the hardest for you to look at about yourself are the places that need the most love and attention.
LaToya: Yeah. And I guess like another way you can think about it is like
LaToya: the dark is more of like the hidden thing, the stuff that we intentionally hide or. Or hide unintentionally, but like you said, like, those are the things that we need to be, you know, very tender and intentional with handling light is the things that we we know we see, we're okay with expressing and sharing it.
LaToya: But yeah, like the hidden parts of us, you know, some things need to be hidden. Maybe everyone shouldn't know about your kinked mouth.
All right, well, we're gonna, we're gonna segue into. Saturn station retrograde June 9th to November 15th. Um, I don't know if we've talked about retrogrades in detail before, but just like, so there's like four stages of a retrograde. There's pre shadow, which is before the, before the retrograde officially happens, but the planet reaches the same degree and minute that it's in when the retrograde ends, goes direct.
Iris: Then there's when the planet stations retrograde. This is when the planet looks like it's moving backwards and we really feel the retrograde tangibly. Um, you can also feel it in the pre shadow, but like you'll definitely feel it when it stations retrograde. Um, stations direct is when the planet is going to start moving forward again, and then the post shadow is when the planet is in the same degree and minute.
Iris: when the retrograde started. Um, and it's like losing its steam, um, until it officially is over.
LaToya: So yeah, Saturn, Saturn's going to be doing
LaToya: his retrograde thing. Um, personally, I'm not excited for it. I'm never excited when Saturn goes retrograde. So Saturn is the planet of, uh, Discipline. hard work, your reality, physical reality, um, how you, oh my gosh, how you use your authority or how you see authority.
LaToya: Um, and then when he slows down or from our perspective here on earth, when he slows down and then he stations retrograde and backtracks in the Zodiac that he's in, which is Pisces, it feels like things slowly. Like, like the stuff that you're trying to progress in it, like the progress stops, slows down, stops.
LaToya: And then, like, you start to realize how much you do not have control of, at least when Saturn goes, okay, this is my experience. And then from there you have to. Look within and understand how you've been structuring your life. How have you been using your power, your authority and, um, reconfigure, restructure, we, we, we see, we analyze like how you're living your life and how it actually, uh, what the reality is and.
LaToya: Rebuild from there from like, what's right in front of you, dealing with what's right in front of you, instead of like what you hope for, what you wish for. And, um, yeah, so Saturn can really bring in the, the hard lessons. So with it being in my eighth house, that could be possible. Oh, I know what it is. It's the wrong money.
LaToya: Like how we've been using our money. Um, and the reality is no one's going to give it to you. Like, you have to use what you have and make the most of it so that in the long run, when he comes back around in the next 30 years, you're not in the same position again. Um, so, like, having to do this inner work to then be able to go back out when he stations direct is the, at least the call for for me, but I know like.
LaToya: When Saturn goes retrograde, it feels like you're not in control because things, the progress that you feel like you were making is starting to slow down. And, um, yeah, making you look within.
Andreya: Yeah, Saturn in Pisces. Um, Saturn in Pisces, like the theme
Andreya: I've been going on and on about is just like spiritual boundaries and how that, uh, is in everything that we do. Uh, and boundaries is such a huge topic right now. Like people are really starting to understand what boundaries are, where boundaries are needed in their lives.
Andreya: Like, I feel like it's just such a word that people are throwing around, like they throw around the word empath, you know? Um, I think that Again, is the Piscean, uh, aspect of Saturn being in Pisces for three years. Um, and so for this retrograde, I really feel like we're going to be invited to reflect on our boundaries and.
Andreya: This can be, like Latoya said, like, with money, with your guides, with, like, the spiritual powers that you practice, with your relationships, like, with work, like, literally fucking everything. And so, just, like, we're gonna be invited to reflect on our boundaries, and I just, yeah, as I think, I think, like, We're going to see how far we've come, but also how far we need to go.
Andreya: And that's like the limitation that Latoya is talking about that Saturn brings is just like a reality check.
LaToya: Yeah, yeah. And I feel like with him, going around tricking, it's really going to make us count the cost of the reality that we're trying to build. And be realistic with the resources and energy that we have.
Andreya: Um, and just like, uh, I think if you're into microdosing magic mushrooms that this will be a great time to restart that project practice.
LaToya: Yeah, because you get to see the inner workings of your mind
LaToya: and like, yeah, what you're what you're building upon how you're living your life, the perspective that you have, and how it influences your life, I can see that.
Andreya: Right. And then when these like big emotions do come up about well being and the responsibility of well being, the mushrooms will give you that extra support to deal with what Saturn Pisces is bringing you. Yeah, for sure.
Iris: Yeah, Saturn is like a teacher. All of the planets are teachers. Well, like Saturn is like an elder who bestows on you. Wisdom and during Saturn retrograde, you might realize that the elder is no longer there for you to get the wise transmissions from so it's on you to connect the dots and figure out what the fuck to do.
Iris: So like you might feel even more so like maybe this transit of Saturn in whatever house and sign it's in for you right now, maybe it's been feeling like building up responsibilities and like looking at, um, like your limitations and all of these things more, how your life has changed as you've gotten older, and this retrograde period might be more of like, Oh shit, like this is really the time for me to step into where I am now in life because like I'm no longer this younger version of myself who doesn't know better.
Iris: Like now I do know better, and I have to do things differently. And like this is the time where you can kind of prepare. And when Saturn goes direct. You can like take what you've been preparing and your plans and Saturn loves a fucking plan and like move it into the energy of things moving forward when Saturn goes direct during Scorpio season in November.
Iris: Um, and as someone who's like worked with Saturn a lot because I have still human Capricorn. Um, my advice is like, be kind to yourself. I think Saturn is the most severe planet in the sky. Saturn is no nonsense. And like, sometimes that's great. And sometimes it's really hard to hear, but like, you don't have to be no nonsense with yourself.
Iris: Like you can treat yourself like a kid and that's perfectly okay. Like you can be patient and loving and accepting. And when you notice yourself being really critical of what you're doing or what you're thinking, um, you can, like, Instead of criticizing yourself or criticizing yourself, you can be like, you know, what, my ability to be critical has like, helped me be a self aware person who like is responsible and takes ownership for their impact.
Iris: And also has helped me make change. And I would also like to be kinder to myself in how I talk to myself. So basically like, don't lean into that self critical loop, try to direct yourself out of it with whatever, like thought strategy is helpful for you. And like, be aware of like being sad and being cynical and being melancholic.
Iris: It's summer, like, go outside as much as possible, get sunlight, go on a walk, if those things are accessible for you, go on a roll, um, like, inner, like, interact with nature, just like, take care of yourself as much as you can, this Saturnian energy is, like, very heavy, so you need some alleviates that heaviness.
Iris: You need to like play and goof around and have fun.
LaToya: Yeah, for sure. And Saturn likes being alone in nature. So maybe, you know, giving that, that going on those walks would be helpful to alleviate,
LaToya: um, the heaviness of your, of your life, you know, cause yeah, we got, you can be carrying a lot. So
Andreya: something I also want to add that I.
Andreya: learned from Iris is that Saturn loves it when you sacrifice something for him. And so if there's like a bad habit that you've been doing, um, and there, you can sacrifice that habit to Saturn. I think that would be something good to think about doing as well during this retrograde.
LaToya: Yeah. Good advice.
Iris: Okay, onward! All right, well, this is the end of our episode on eighth house shit.
Iris: Uh, we are gonna end this episode talking about what we're up to professionally. And who wants to start?
LaToya: Okay. Yeah,
LaToya: so I, you know, I'm open for online readings. I'm loving doing the year ahead solar return readings so that's what I'm most excited about right now.
LaToya: Um, so if you're interested in that just. Message me at Emerald Astrology on Instagram or, uh, Latoya at EmeraldAstrology. com. Email me there and ask me about those kinds of readings. And I'm also offering, um, 15 minute readings at the Austin Witches Market on June 9th. 16. And so I'll be out there in Austin doing a market.
LaToya: So I'm excited about that. I won't be at City Alchemist this month because I'm going to have a anniversary vacation later on. So if you're in Austin and you hang out at City Alchemist, catch me in July and I'll be there as well. That's what I'm doing.
Iris:
Iris: June 16th, which is a Sunday, I am facilitating Kitchen Table Astrology at
Iris: Raven's Wing in Selwood, Portland, Oregon. That's an astrology group, um, that I started. And this session, we're going to talk about the planets Jupiter through Pluto. So if you want to come hang out, join us. Um, it's a sliding scale, um, 10 to 20 and there's information on my Instagram.
Iris: Depending on when we publish this episode, it might have already happened, but we're meeting the third Sunday of every month, um, June 29th. I'm going to be, uh, doing readings at an event called Rab Pride. Which is like through a radical collective in Portland. Um, and there's going to be like mutual aid organizations and everyone's going to be wearing a mask it's outdoors.
Iris: Um, there's other, other vendors too, so come check it out. It's gonna be at a park. Um, information will be on my Instagram, Iris, the Brux. Um, or on my website, iris the brux.com. And at some point I'm gonna send out a newsletter. Um, the first newsletter, um, that I've made. still working on it. If you're interested in being a receiver of the newsletter, you can hit me up on Instagram and send me your email.
Iris: It's gonna be about astrology and magic and like occult shit and my leftist politics. So if you're not a leftist, I understand if you don't want to subscribe. You're like, I'll be on this email ass. I'm already gonna tell you right now. That's awesome. Okay. Um,
Andreya: well, I definitely got, uh, spiritually burnt out the last two months and I haven't really,
Andreya: I've been like taking a step back.
Andreya: I feel spiritual burn burnout is real and it needs to be talked about more. But since I have such a loving community and amazing friends, like I'm getting back into it, uh, since it's summer, a lot of people, uh, want those mushrooms again. So, you know, consultations when it comes to incorporating mushroom medicine in your daily life, I like to look at your chart and see how we can set you up for success.
Andreya: when it comes to days, dosage, strains, what's gonna come up during your micro dosing or macro dosing, um, what coping mechanisms you can use during your journey. It's like we go through it all and it's so much fun. And then, um, Yeah, so consultations are always opening are always opened. Um, and then full and Newman circles are gonna come up again.
Andreya: Um, also on the 29th, I'll be at spirit quest in Old Town Spring, Texas, doing readings there. Um, but yeah, we're so cool. I love us. I love us. . Thank you. For listening to Real Life Astrology, uh, please like, rate, review, subscribe, fuck with us, tell someone you love who's into astrology or the occult about our podcast, um, comment us, hit us up on Instagram.
Andreya: What do you want to hear from us? Everything helps. I've noticed lately I've thought a lot about how like when you look for podcasts on like Spotify or whatever platform you use, that they really just like want you to listen to podcasts of famous people and like, fuck that. Like famous people already have so much money in resources and access, like listen to podcasts by everyday regular motherfuckers like us.
Andreya: Because like, why not? We would love your support and have a wonderful day.
